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Spiritual Awakening and Personal Transformation with Tina C. Hines
In this episode of the Mom Owned and Operated podcast, Rita Suzanne and Tina C. Hines discuss raising a family, running a business and remembering yourself.
Tina C. Hines, a fifth-generation empath, intuitive clairvoyant, medium, and healer. She holds certification as a life and international transformation coach, dedicating her life's purpose to guiding emotionally wounded women on a transformative journey towards self-love, self-care, and self-worth. With a wealth of experience, Tina has graced numerous podcasts and featured in esteemed media platforms including Good Morning America, The New York Times, The Tamron Hall Show, and Trenton Now.
Her influence extends across continents, as she traverses the United States, Asia, Africa, and the Caribbean, hosting healing retreats that empower women to rediscover their own happiness. Tina's distinctive approach has established her as an authority in transformational coaching. Her vision is clear and profound: to embolden women to embrace unapologetic abundance, allowing them to craft the lives they truly desire.
Before embarking on her journey as a certified life coach, Tina spent an impressive three decades in corporate America, serving as an executive assistant. This extensive background enriches her coaching with a unique depth of insight and practical wisdom. Currently, Tina resides in the vibrant city of Marrakech, Morocco, alongside her cherished son.
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Hi, this is Mom Owned and Operated. I'm Rita, suzanne, and today I have my guest, tina Hines, with me. Tina, I am so excited to chat with you today. Please tell everyone all about you, your business and your family.
Tina C. Hines:Well, I am glad to be here, rita. My name again is Tina C Hines. I am a fifth generation healer, intuitive clairvoyant and a medium. I'm a fifth generation healer, intuitive clairvoyant and a medium, and I am also a transformation specialist also known as a transformation coach for many, and I spent 30 years in corporate America before taking the leap, without a safety net, to continue working as a transformation coach. I am the mom of one and the wife of none, and I currently reside in Marrakesh, morocco. I've been here for a little less than a year. Me and my son are here, and I have just been on this amazing journey of supporting women and their healing and tapping into more of what brings them joy, and I am excited to share that with your audience.
Rita Suzanne:I love it. How do you go from corporate to transformation coach and healer, Like, how does that happen?
Tina C. Hines:I had gone through this amazing awakening at the age of 40, going through an awakening and my gifts started to make their presence known. And as I was working in it, I was also at the time working in philanthropic, and it's an area where we devoted our resources to health and healthcare in the United States. And although we were in a space where we were giving, I got to a point where it did not bring me joy. I was unfulfilled with it, and I had started my coaching practice in the midst of working in corporate America and I realized that every time I worked with something or work with someone, or I hosted one of my healing international healing retreats, there was something inside of me that felt like a tank was consistently filling up. And, you know, as time progressed, I just was falling into a downward spiral of depression because I was unhappy there. It wasn't the boss, it wasn't the job, it was just the value that I thought that I was giving. I felt it should be given in a different way, and so, after processing it and over-processing the decision that I needed to make, I woke up one day and just decided that I needed to leave my corporate job, and I reached out to my supervisor and I said listen, I love you, I love you so much, but I need to go. I love me more. And so we had a great conversation.
Tina C. Hines:I handed in my resignation letter but, unlike most places, I resigned in May but I didn't walk out of the door until December because I wanted to make sure everything was okay and I had not fully planned that leap. Basically, I leaped without a safety net and was just saying to myself this is going to work, it has to work. Of course it's going to have its ebbs and flows and I'm okay with that. But I had given. I was a young mom, so I had given my all to him and I would. I was now in what I call me season and it was totally 100 focused on me and identifying what brought me joy, what was going to give me the fulfillment that we desire, and so I surrendered to it. I surrendered to this space and leaving the comfortable ie uncomfortable career and leaned more into the practice of supporting other women in their healing.
Rita Suzanne:Yeah, so what exactly does a transformation coach or healer do for those who may not really know how that works?
Tina C. Hines:So with transformation coaching, for me the work that I do is tapping into areas that may be causing a little bit of dis-ease in your life. A lot of times we take a journey backwards to get to the root cause of the big T or little t, as someone shared with me trauma that we experience. Important to identify. If the support you need is coaching and not therapeutic, because there is that fine line that I don't cross, the support you need is coaching and not therapeutic, because there is that fine line that I don't cross and we have different types of conversations. That allows me to not only hear what you do say but what you don't say, because my gifts allow me to go a little bit deeper and they're spiritually guided of the questions that I ask when I am doing the transformation coaching, we tap into one specific area that you want to focus on. If you're experiencing a blockage in your life, if you're struggling with fear and self-doubt and loving yourself, self-love and self-care, we identify what is the root cause of this not happening in your life. With the energy healing that I do, it's almost like people who call it Reiki. I don't call it Reiki because I'm not Reiki certified, but I do go over your body and identify where there could be a blockage and explain what I see as that blockage. Women here in Morocco and they asked me to perform an energy clearing and one of them they were so still in their session and after I took her through her guided meditation and I cleared her energy and we were having a discussion, at the end I said to her you would not move and I said part of the reason you won't move is because you don't want to be seen, because each time you're seen, that means someone's going to ask you for something, ask you for help, and you don't want, you're tired and you don't want to give any more help to anybody. It's time for you to give yourself. She says I would have never figured that out. That's why I was remaining so still, and so there were certain things that were transpiring during the session and, for the most part, a lot of the women who come to me don't feel seen or heard and they're tired and they're either, they're empty nesters. So some of them their children are leaving home and we start identifying what they can do differently and go back into what were they dreaming about or what did they want to do? Before they became a parent, before they got married, what did they place on the back burner in order to take care of the family unit that they had created? So we tap into that as well. And you know, with the transformation coaching it is, we're giving you, I'm giving you specific tools for you to use in order for you to consistently use them.
Tina C. Hines:Once our time together has come to an end, I tell all of my clients I don't want to spend the rest of your life with you. We're going to work on your specific area. If there's other situations that come to the surface, we can identify and work on them too, but we're not going to work on the same thing year after year. That means one of us is not doing the work that we're supposed to be doing and we're going to tap into that. So it's always an interesting journey because each client's needs are similar but not the same, and a lot of what I do is spiritually led. I like to say I'm guided by my great-great-grandmother, Grandma Jenny, whom everybody seems to love. I think they love her more than me Because they say is Grandma Jenny going to be in my session today? I don't know, but it's interesting. I love this work. I love seeing the breakthroughs that women experience and allows them to have their aha moment and the observation of the journey that they, as they are evolving.
Rita Suzanne:Yeah, it's like you're empowering them to actually find themselves again, because I feel like oftentimes as women younger mom you lose yourself a lot sooner than you know maybe someone who waits to have their kids. I think that you know you get lost in that new role a lot faster. So when you mentioned that there's a lot of commonalities, what are some of the things that you find that are similar in the women that you're working with?
Tina C. Hines:With the women that I have worked with. For one they're again. I said they're becoming empty nesters, so they're realizing how much they poured into everybody else and they were not pouring. Their cups were not being filled. That is one of the biggest ones, the trauma that they may have experienced growing up, whether whatever area it is they they feel as if they have worked on it but they really haven't. And I always tell people, tell my clients, don't focus on letting it go. Identify how you can navigate your life differently in spite of what happened. What can you do in spite of you've been raped? What can you do in spite of you were a survivor of domestic abuse, because that situation happened and you are consistently reliving it because it is a part of you and we honor and respect that. However, what do you do to have power over it versus it has having power over you? So I deal. There's some abuse that comes into play as well.
Tina C. Hines:Fear, oh fear is the biggest area that people identify with the fear of the unknown. I just fear the unknown and whenever I, I cringe whenever I hear it because I say everything is unknown. There is nothing that has transpired in your life that is actually known. You don't know what the next word is going to come out of your mouth. You don't know if you're going to get up from the couch to walk in the kitchen and you're going to stomp your toe. You didn't know that was going to happen. Everything is unknown. If you try to stay in your comfort zone, here's the most interesting thing Everything you want is outside of your comfort zone. Everything you have is inside of your comfort zone At some point. Everything you have was once outside of your comfort zone. So it's okay for you to step out of it to go get what you desire.
Rita Suzanne:Especially, you know, like the people who the moms who are listening are, you know, most of them are business owners and I feel like a lot of them, they, they want to do more, they want to go outside of that comfort zone, but there is so much fear wrapped around it, right? Fear of judgment, fear of failure, fear of again the unknown or all of those things, and so I feel like that is probably one of the biggest things that hold them back, I'm sure.
Tina C. Hines:Yeah, but even here's the most interesting thing I don't know if I was reading it the other day or it just came to mind in my three o'clock wake up hour when we talk about fear, we fear of failure, we fear of success.
Tina C. Hines:This is just my personal opinion, moms. So the fear of failure means that we have to face people who were saying, oh, I knew she wasn't going to make it or you know, whatever was going to happen. The fear of the success is you have to deal with the people you may lose in the midst of the success Because they may not be on the same journey as you and you want to avoid anyone that's going to self-sabotage you, including yourself. And so you fear also, with the success, that I may have to let some people go or some people may remove themselves from my life. And that's also the balance between the fear of somebody's going to talk to me and say, ooh, I knew you were, I knew it wasn't going to happen, or what have you? They're going to, they're going to have an opinion of it, versus I have to let these people go. They no longer fit the new life that I'm creating for myself.
Rita Suzanne:Yeah, that's scary to walk away from people and you have to be okay with doing that. And one thing that I always say when having a business is there's so much self-discovery that comes along in self-growth. That has to happen when you become an entrepreneur, when you have a business, because if you don't do it, I feel like your business will stall out, it will fail because you're not able to grow with your business. Do you find that to be the same, like, do you find that to be true?
Tina C. Hines:What's so interesting is I've I've always had amazing women in my life and I have not truly lost. I call them my front row sisters. And my front row sisters are amazing Even when I made the decision, when I left my job. A month later, I relocated to Georgia and I lived in Georgia for six years before moving to Morocco. And what was so interesting is I think they were more upset when I left Georgia than when I moved to Morocco, because they have always been very supportive of me and this journey that I have been on and I truly believe that Gus, as I call them, god, universe source has positioned the right individuals around me to support me on this journey, and anyone that was not the right person or did not fit the mold were released with love and I never really had to do anything or say anything for that to happen.
Tina C. Hines:It is a challenge when you have your business, because your mindset is different and the way that you manage situations is different.
Tina C. Hines:Neither of my friends are entrepreneurs this is not the space that they're in but they understand the work that I was called to do. What's so interesting is one of them had a serious conversation with me early on, because we had been friends since we were 15 years old and my mind was my friend's got to come with me early on because we had been friends like for since we were 15 years old and my mind was my friend's got to come with me. My friends have to come with me. And one day she sat me down and she said listen, I see what you're trying to do. And I was like what do you mean? She says you want me to go to every event. You want me to come and show up to this? And she goes Tina, this is your space, it's not mine, and I'm OK with that. I don't have to be with you. I just want you to know that you were given this gift. I wasn't and I am going to always have your back. You go, do what you need to do.
Tina C. Hines:I have you, you go do what you need to do, I have you, and it took her to say that. That really hit home for me and for me to flourish and allow other people to enter my life, because I'm like, I'm not cheating on my friends.
Rita Suzanne:Oh, it is such an amazing friend too, but also like a comfort for you to have her with you, right, to have her walk with you, and you know, it's almost like a security blanket of having her beside you and for her to say you know what? I think you can, you can do this by yourself, tina. You're great, you can do this, but I'm still going to be here for you when I need, when you need me, and I love that. I think that that's an amazing friend, you know, for her to still stand beside you.
Rita Suzanne:It's hard, though, to do it by yourself, especially when your friends are not in that same space, correct? I agree, yeah, cause cause one of my best friends is not an entrepreneur and I I feel I'm, I'm over there, like saying, like explaining things, and I'm like he does not understand anything. I'm talking, but I'm still going to tell, I'm still going to say you know, but you know super supportive and everything as best as possible. So I love all of that. And so, as far as like a spiritual awakening, how does that impact, like your relationships, and how does that make things change? Because I know several people who've had spiritual awakenings and their lives have changed so dramatically.
Tina C. Hines:When you say relationships, what do you mean? Romantic or friendship or otherwise?
Rita Suzanne:Oh, like personal, personal relationships, I think, just with themselves, like I think it it, once they change, all of their relationships have changed.
Tina C. Hines:Yeah. So for me going through this awakening, as I said, it happened when I was 40 and I truly believe that it was. It happened at the right time because I had had a lot of life's experiences by that time and those experiences were going to show up in the women that I would serve, and the one thing that I strive for is to always make people feel comfortable in spite of my gifts. However, I made the conscious decision that I was not going to downplay it, especially after I left corporate America. I was didn't realize how much I had used my gift during my time in corporate, because I wasn't aware of it. It was just me being organic of I'm helping you and I'm serving you, and once I left corporate, I was so unapologetic and I was like this is who I am and I oddly enough, I typically lead with my gift, so people won't have to wonder of how did you know that or what made you ask me that question, which is what happens a lot. The awakening came with its highs and lows, where I had to be learned to be more selective in the places that I would go, because I'm highly sensitive and it can trigger me in some way, that sort of will. It's almost like somebody, like a balloon, just letting all the air out. That's exactly how I feel when I'm in certain environments where, especially, it's crowded.
Tina C. Hines:Most people would think that, as I'm going, as I've gone through my awakening, that I spend my days reading them and I don't. I'm like I don't have the energy to read everyone who walks past me. I would never leave my house. I would become a recluse. I know that I operate from a place of light, so what's interesting is when I do count encounter individuals who struggle with believing about the gift and I honestly tell them it's not my job to convince you. I'm just here to do what I was called to do and there's no ulterior motive when it comes to it. I think more people struggle with it because they lack understanding and because when you're working in the spiritual space, there are so many there, there are many components of it and we all don't operate the same, and when someone comes to me for a reading, I typically say have you had a reading in the past? Because their expectation is this reader is like this reader is like this reader and I'm like, no, we're not all the same. Sorry, I'm getting a ringing in my ear. We're not all the same and I am about 95% spiritually guided by my great-great-grandmother, who has transitioned.
Tina C. Hines:I never had the pleasure of meeting her and the biggest question when I went through my waking was people asking me how did I know, how did you know that you had a gift? How did you know that grandma Jenny is your spirit guide? Um, it took getting quiet and unfortunately, that getting quiet was clinical depression, and I was going through the awakening and the depression at the same time. So I was trying to understand both of them, because I had never experienced depression either. And, um, so I got a therapist. I worked with a therapist, I raked with somebody who did Reiki to support me in both places. What was great was my therapist was in tune with it and that was very helpful to me. So I had to find the right therapist.
Tina C. Hines:When I went through it, I started asking family members, because it was something that was not discussed in our household, and in the process of it, they sent me to one of my grandmother's nieces, who was our elder in our family, to ask her about it. And I said to her I think I'm going crazy, I think I need to go to the hospital. And she goes why? I says because I'm seeing Nana, which was. I says because I'm seeing Nana, which was my grandmother, and I'm seeing her mother. My grandmother and her mother were sisters. And I says I'm seeing grandma Harriet, which is my great, great, my great grandmother, and I think some woman I don't know who she is and she says describe her to me. And so I proceeded to describe what grandma Jenny looked like. And she says when we go back home, I want you to go in my dining room and there's a picture of that woman. That's your great, great grandmother, that's your Grandma Jenny, and you're just like her and I've been waiting for you. And that's how I found out.
Rita Suzanne:Wow, that's so, that's so powerful. That's how I found out. That's amazing. That's how I found out. That's amazing.
Tina C. Hines:I love that the best part about that, rita, is this my grandmother had dreams and one of my aunts had my grandmother's journals where she wrote her dreams. And I was the first one in the family to read those journals and saw some of the dreams that she had written, as well as a little bit of family history in the journals. And I'm talking to one of my aunts and I'm like do you remember this happening? She's like no, I was like I remember and I'm giving her descriptions. And she's like there's no way you would have remembered this. You were like two. And I'm telling her that I remember it transpiring. And so that's where the gift comes from. Everybody has a different component. My grandmother had dreams. Her sister could lay hands on people and heal them. Their grandmother had the gift of sight and my grandma, jenny, had the dreams, the sight, the healing, and I'm 100% like her. I have all of those gifts as well.
Rita Suzanne:Do you think that it's hard for some people to believe and or accept just because they've never experienced something like that before themselves? Is that why there's maybe a little bit of a skepticism?
Tina C. Hines:I think the skepticism comes from a couple of things. One is because they probably have yet to experience before, or they've experienced it and they haven't learned how to manage it. And from religious upbringing, you know, for some people this looks is considered evil, it's considered a devil, and which I still can't quite understand, because you have prophets in church, so I don't understand how to two mess mesh with one another. But it's a lack of understanding and not wanting to understand and religious uplinking of what they were taught and how they struggle with what I was taught and what I see is happening in front of me.
Rita Suzanne:Yeah, I'm not sure if I can answer that. I know I'm going to tell you something off after the fact, but okay, so let's do this, let's do a little pivot and talk a lot about. So something that I always want to talk about is self-care, and so one thing that I want to talk about, because you moved to Morocco, I feel like there's you're doing so much self-care. I feel like there's you're doing so much self-care. I feel like, first of all, maybe did you move to Morocco just because you wanted to? What was the reason for moving?
Tina C. Hines:Let's get. Let me ask you that I have always wanted to live outside of the United States. I started traveling at 23. And my son would travel with me as well at certain times, and I've always put out into the atmosphere I'm going to live outside the country. I'm going to live outside the country.
Tina C. Hines:Initially it was supposed to be Anguilla, british West Indies, but I went and spent several months there and realized that it wasn't it. I love the turquoise water, but the island was just too small and so after I left I had gone back to corporate America out of necessity, and then I left it just as quick as I got in there and one of my friends, her and her husband, came here to open a healing center. And when I had talked to her several times, she says come to Morocco and help me. And I'm like no, you know, I don't want to be in the desert, I need turquoise water. And as luck would have it, you know, she asked a second time and she needed my support from the administrative role and plus my background in hosting healing retreats. And so I said you know what, why not? I'll come and do it for a couple of months. And you know, see how I like it and well, it's been more than a couple of months. I'm enjoying. It has its ebbs and flows. There are some things that I like. There are some things that I don't like. I love having access to healthy foods at all times at a fraction of the cost from the United States.
Tina C. Hines:I got to experience their health care here because I suffered a mild heart attack a few days after arriving here. Yeah, it's been an interesting journey. I suffered a heart attack, I was here for the earthquake, I survived the earthquake. A lot of challenging things have happened here, but I'm still here and I feel like everything that transpired was supposed to take place here. I received a lot of support on the journey and, you know, when it comes to the self-care, I definitely have leaned a lot into that making healthier choices when it comes to eating, making sure that I'm okay because I had to get a stent put in my artery leading to my heart and learning how to allow my feminine energy to overshadow my masculine versus the other way around and receive the support, receive the support of people. So definitely a lot of self care going on here, and I like to call it soul care because I'm allowing myself to go within yeah, I love that.
Rita Suzanne:So I was associating. They moved to Morocco just speak with self-care. Just because of the, what I was maybe thinking maybe a less less pressure um over there than maybe it is over here, right, and then it's nice to hear that there's you know, more access to healthier food and and the lifestyle is a lot different than it is over here.
Rita Suzanne:So that's, that's a good thing. So one thing, you know, I always like to end off with the self care, so can you tell everyone then, outside of the healthy eating, what are you doing like for yourself? Do you like journal? Are you walking? Are you doing like anything else?
Tina C. Hines:Yeah, yeah, all of the things. I haven't driven a car since. I haven't driven a car since August of last year. Where my apartment is located is very center city, so I have my my my pedometer thing on because this track is charging now and I get in at least five thousand to ten thousand steps a day on the days when I go out. I am a huge advocate for journaling. That's one of the requirements when my clients work with me and I have a meditation practice that I do twice a day. I am huge on meditation. I like to say meditation saves lives, yours and mine and doing my best not to stress about things that are not in my control.
Rita Suzanne:I love that. So, um, quickly, about meditation, because I know that a lot of people struggle with meditation, saying like I can't get my brain to stop, and, you know, do you have any tips for that, since you are, you know, into highly into meditation?
Tina C. Hines:that since you are, you know, into highly into meditation, can you share something with the biggest tip that I can help? Yeah, the biggest tip that I can share is there's no right or wrong way to meditate. There's no right or wrong way to meditate. You can meditate for two minutes and you've meditated. I can do and I've meditated. You have to identify what's the best way for you to get quiet, and it happens over time. It's not going to happen immediately. I've been meditating for 12, 15 years. You can decide if you want to have guided meditation, where someone takes you on a journey. You can have music meditation. You can meditate when you walk. It's finding what's right for you.
Tina C. Hines:Personally, I have found that I like to listen to European men. Their voices resonate with me and it has to be a male voice, because I work with women. I don't want it to be a female voice and you give yourself small increments of sitting in silence, of turning down the volume. Sometimes you may wake up early in the morning, like two, three o'clock in the morning, because before that the brain is consistently moving and once the world wakes up, the brain starts back moving. So somewhere between two and four is when there's silence that kicks in and you can just sit and calm and just meditate and not really just be moving, like sometimes we get out the bed and rush versus. I'm going to wake up and simply lay here for a little while, allowing myself to get centered, allowing myself to breathe in from my diaphragm and just relax the body and drop the shoulders and sit in peace.
Rita Suzanne:Yeah, and not pick up your phone and not check your notifications. Just relax for a minute. I think that a lot of people think that with meditation, as soon as their mind starts to wander, that it's over, like they failed right, and it's hard for them to bring themselves back to meditation. And so my thing was when I was meditating was, even when I would wander off, I would still bring myself back and, and you know, try to focus again.
Tina C. Hines:And you know, try to focus again.
Rita Suzanne:Yeah, yes. So where can? If someone wants to work with you or someone wants to connect with you on social media, where can we find you online? Where?
Tina C. Hines:are you at. So if you want to learn more about the work that I do in my healing retreats, you can go to my website, tinachinescom. And on social media I am on. I do lives on TikTok and that's Tina C Hines, as well as Facebook is Tina C Hines, life Transformation Specialist, and Instagram is Tina C Hines, 50. So if you're looking for a live, I do it on TikTok. I don't do it that much on the other social media platforms.
Rita Suzanne:It's been such a pleasure chatting with you. Thank you so much, Tina.
Tina C. Hines:Thank you for having me.
